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morsi is different in that he was very hostile. what i learned about him in researching him, he was actual the brotherhood's point man in negotiations with the mubarak regime. why did they choose him? they chose him because they trusted that he would toe the brotherhood's line. that he wouldn't concede ything to the mubarak regime. that is the think he is now. a hard-liner. melissa: what was it like when you talked to him after he became president? >> i actually have not gotten to speak with him since he became president. of course he doesn't answer his cell phony more. melissa: but you said that was when you met him face-to-face. you talked to him after the revolution, is that what you're saying before? >> in other words after the revolution he was the president of the freedom and stice party which is the brotherhood's party. he actually used to answer his cellhone. melissa: what was he like during that period? >> well, you know, during that period he was really pushing for, especially during the revolution and a little bit after
morsi is different in that he was very hostile. what i learned about him in researching him, he was actual the brotherhood's point man in negotiations with the mubarak regime. why did they choose him? they chose him because they trusted that he would toe the brotherhood's line. that he wouldn't concede ything to the mubarak regime. that is the think he is now. a hard-liner. melissa: what was it like when you talked to him after he became president? >> i actually have not gotten to speak...
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morsi said he inserted, developing a new constitution. he didn't want the legislative branch dissolved by the court. today he met with the judges and he is on his heels. he will make a deal. watch. >> bret: charles' seat no less. [ laughter ] stay tuned to see tribute to u.s. service members.
morsi said he inserted, developing a new constitution. he didn't want the legislative branch dissolved by the court. today he met with the judges and he is on his heels. he will make a deal. watch. >> bret: charles' seat no less. [ laughter ] stay tuned to see tribute to u.s. service members.
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>> his name, president morsi's name. instead the state department says the decisions and declarations in egypt quote, raised concerns for egyptians and the community. and assuring that power would not be overly concentrated in the hand of any one person or institution. but it does not call on president morsi directly to reverse course. republican senator john mccain who will be on fox news sunday tomorrow was a bit more direct, saying in a tweet, president morsi should renounce his power grab before things get out of hand, hashtag egypt. and the president called morsi one day, to thank him for a cease-fire between hamas and gaza. >> and morsi's actions now putting the obama administration in a tough position, molly. tell us more about that. >> now that morsi fired top prosecutor and put himself above the judiciary system the white house will back off more public support of him and a former ambassador to the u.n. under president george w. bush says that morsi is taking advantage of his part in this cease-fire. >> whether
>> his name, president morsi's name. instead the state department says the decisions and declarations in egypt quote, raised concerns for egyptians and the community. and assuring that power would not be overly concentrated in the hand of any one person or institution. but it does not call on president morsi directly to reverse course. republican senator john mccain who will be on fox news sunday tomorrow was a bit more direct, saying in a tweet, president morsi should renounce his power...
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tell me this, i know that mohammed morsi is planning to meet tomorrow with his opponents, what can you tell us about that planned meeting? >> he's meeting with some chief justices here in cairo and it's the first seen of a potential move or sign of backing down by the president, but too early it call yet. as you know, many judges across the country have gone out on strike after the presidential decree that basically put the president above the law, above the courts, but as far as any talk with the opposition go, opposition figures say that's out of the question and there's going to be no dialog until that decree is revoked and they are he' planning a million man march, a protest for tuesday, harris. >> harris: wow, a million man. quickly before i let you go, steve, in the past when we saw revolution in that country a year and a half or so ago, we saw police forces, we saw military intervention. what is the latest on authorities there on the ground? >> right now it's just been police forces on the ground and really a back and forth on a low level with the protests. the real concern is a
tell me this, i know that mohammed morsi is planning to meet tomorrow with his opponents, what can you tell us about that planned meeting? >> he's meeting with some chief justices here in cairo and it's the first seen of a potential move or sign of backing down by the president, but too early it call yet. as you know, many judges across the country have gone out on strike after the presidential decree that basically put the president above the law, above the courts, but as far as any talk...
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and morsi and the top justices. many chief justices here in cairo and across the country they will no longer to go work until the president repeals his decrease for a power grab. we're seen what could be a show down on the streets. that is when supporters on tuesday and saying that he is trying to be a dictator will face off. both opponents and supporters of the president hauling out people and major marches expected on tuesday. >> heather: steve, thank you. >> gregg: contest in the background on egypt's president morsi. he was elected in june of this year after a revolution overthrowing president hosni mubarak. he is head 6 muslim brotherhood. he is the first freely elected president and first islamist to be head of an arab state. they accuse him of trying to monopolize powers, the courts and media and parliament and in the end, sharia law, imposing strict islamic principles. >> heather: it raises new questions coming one day after egypt help broker a cease-fire in the gaza strip. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n.
and morsi and the top justices. many chief justices here in cairo and across the country they will no longer to go work until the president repeals his decrease for a power grab. we're seen what could be a show down on the streets. that is when supporters on tuesday and saying that he is trying to be a dictator will face off. both opponents and supporters of the president hauling out people and major marches expected on tuesday. >> heather: steve, thank you. >> gregg: contest in the...
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morsi stepped in and basically rescued hamas and got the cease-fire. our president, secretary of state, ambassador rice in the u.n. all gushed praise upon morsi and elevated him to the state us of global statesman. it was a terrible mistake because he hadn't earned that, and the next day he thumbed his nose, to put it politely at our government and the west entirely and said, i'm now in charge, i'll do what i want, egypt is going to do what i say, and, by the way, the revolution is over. megyn: does it make it tougher for us to now condemn what he's doing? so far we've had jay carney say we support democracy, we believe the government in egypt should reflect the will of the people, we have concerns about what morsi has done. >> it would be nice if we supported democracy. but i don't think this administration does. let's be honest, george w. bush tried to support democracy in the middle east and in iraq we gave the iraqis their best shot. about five years ago, six years ago i ran into a buzz saw right and left for saying eventually iraq could be governe
morsi stepped in and basically rescued hamas and got the cease-fire. our president, secretary of state, ambassador rice in the u.n. all gushed praise upon morsi and elevated him to the state us of global statesman. it was a terrible mistake because he hadn't earned that, and the next day he thumbed his nose, to put it politely at our government and the west entirely and said, i'm now in charge, i'll do what i want, egypt is going to do what i say, and, by the way, the revolution is over. megyn:...
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thank you very much. >> the important thing here is, remember, it is presidential morsi who helped bring together this truce teen the israelis and hamas and the palestinians. if there are problems with morsi or situations change in egypt and theon is destagized that is as serious as anything we could report. we will bring in michael singh next, familiar with the region. >>shepard: and continuing coverage of the unrest we have seen in cairo throughout the day, the president there is the one who brokered the truce between the israelis and hamas of the palestinians and, now, he has stepped up seemingly to form a dictatorship and the people are rebelling. now, michael singh former senior director at national security council, currently the managing director of the washington institute. where do you see things today, michael? >>guest: well, the reaction you see in tahrir square is against morsi eliminating the last check on power, the judiciary. what is at stake is the future direction of egypt and the constitution. the constitutional assembly writing the new constitution is dominated by isla
thank you very much. >> the important thing here is, remember, it is presidential morsi who helped bring together this truce teen the israelis and hamas and the palestinians. if there are problems with morsi or situations change in egypt and theon is destagized that is as serious as anything we could report. we will bring in michael singh next, familiar with the region. >>shepard: and continuing coverage of the unrest we have seen in cairo throughout the day, the president there is...
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by egypt's islamist president, mohamed morsi. though country's rocky transition to democracy may hit a brick wall, two days of violent protest adding to the tension in what is already one of the most volatile regions of the world, mohamed morsi, the newly elected president and head of the muslim brotherhood giving himself near absolute power at the expense of egypt's courts and the country's justices firing back calling for a strike and protests until his decree is rescinded. and, there is this: a warning from a prominent opposition leader, that egypt's military may be forced to get involved against president morsi's wishes in an effort to restore order. let's begin with steve harrigan streaming live from cairo, protesters in full force in tahrir square, do you have any idea what is next for them? >> reporter: harris, what we are likely to see on sunday and tuesday, are, perhaps, massive street protests, not just by those who want to oust mohamed morsi, who think he's trying to become a dictator but those who support him, who thi
by egypt's islamist president, mohamed morsi. though country's rocky transition to democracy may hit a brick wall, two days of violent protest adding to the tension in what is already one of the most volatile regions of the world, mohamed morsi, the newly elected president and head of the muslim brotherhood giving himself near absolute power at the expense of egypt's courts and the country's justices firing back calling for a strike and protests until his decree is rescinded. and, there is...
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jenna: judith are those suspicions of morsi valid? >> of course they're valid if you have to judge the man so far by what he has done. i don't think it is just a coincidence, robin, that president morsi made this power grab after hillary clinton showered him with compliments how helpful he had been and what a indispensable role he played in getting sees fire in gaza. he did this because he thought the united states had his back. because he had money he needs to run egypt for the next six months to a year lined up or at least pledged and he thought he could get away with it. and he is now seeing resistance to him and his party and his way of thinking is much deeper and much broder than he had anticipated. jenna: so that brings us to another central question, robin. do you think the priority of morsi and who is in charge of forming this new egyptian government, the priority is a stronger, safer, more powerful egypt, or a stronger, more powerful muslim brotherhood? what, where dot priorities lie? >> oh that's the big question. we'll know
jenna: judith are those suspicions of morsi valid? >> of course they're valid if you have to judge the man so far by what he has done. i don't think it is just a coincidence, robin, that president morsi made this power grab after hillary clinton showered him with compliments how helpful he had been and what a indispensable role he played in getting sees fire in gaza. he did this because he thought the united states had his back. because he had money he needs to run egypt for the next six...
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anger over president morsi's power grab intensifies with a live report. >>heather: a top voice in congress is stepping down as other key leaders that keep our country safe head for the door. our panel weighs in on who could fill the void. >> an outbreak in america, where there has been a major spike in chicken pox and whether it could spread. >> up first, general john mccain speaking out about u.n. ambassador susan rice's potential nomination as the next secretary of state. rice has come underfire from john mccain and other lawmakers for early remarks about the attack in libya which turned out to be false. while appearing on fox news sunday, senator john mccain said he would be willing to an opportunity to explain her position. listen. >> is there anything that ambassador rice can do to change your mind? >> sure, she can, i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions they took. i will be glad to have the opportunity to discuss the issues with her. >>chris: you are saying she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state
anger over president morsi's power grab intensifies with a live report. >>heather: a top voice in congress is stepping down as other key leaders that keep our country safe head for the door. our panel weighs in on who could fill the void. >> an outbreak in america, where there has been a major spike in chicken pox and whether it could spread. >> up first, general john mccain speaking out about u.n. ambassador susan rice's potential nomination as the next secretary of state....
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well the move by morsi came immediate after president obama publicly praised morsi for his role in brokering the truce between israel and hamas militants. so what is this guy morsery really up to? he goes in. sweeps into hamas. he will be the savior. will help broker a peace deal, meanwhile with the other hand back in egypt he is guilty of a huge power grab that makes him awful lot like a dictator in what was supposed to be a more democratic egypt. so what happens now with the country we currently support with almost $2 billion in foreign aid? ambassador john bolton was one of the very first to warn, be careful what you wish for when the arab spring drove morsi's predecessor, mubarak, from power. that guy was basically a dictator too but he was a pro-western dictator. now there is a question whether we have upgraded and whether the egyptian people have. we'll ask ambassador bolton what he thinks. >>> in washington we're hearing new concerns over the fate of the recently ramped up budget talks in washington and what they're talking about is your money and how much they're going to take. after
well the move by morsi came immediate after president obama publicly praised morsi for his role in brokering the truce between israel and hamas militants. so what is this guy morsery really up to? he goes in. sweeps into hamas. he will be the savior. will help broker a peace deal, meanwhile with the other hand back in egypt he is guilty of a huge power grab that makes him awful lot like a dictator in what was supposed to be a more democratic egypt. so what happens now with the country we...
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>> morsi has been consolidating power since he got into office. he sacked the top military brass and other key government officials. the constitutional court concerned about the legislature and his relation with the muslim brotherhood disbanded it. now writing the constitution, the muslim brotherhood dominates it and they have been freezing out the minority, the christians and the secularists. morsi sees that. he's afraid the journals would disband that as well. bill: isn't there a fear the courts could expand islamic law and make it more prevalent throughout egypt? >> that's clearly what the concern was that the court had with the constituent assembly. that the new constitution being written by the muslim brotherhood would exclude the voice of the minority in a future government. clearly that's a major issue. >> let's bring it home. you make some strong points including this one. we are watching and witnessing the result of u.s. disengagement from the region. in what sense do you see that, general? >> when you talk to leaders in the region. for t
>> morsi has been consolidating power since he got into office. he sacked the top military brass and other key government officials. the constitutional court concerned about the legislature and his relation with the muslim brotherhood disbanded it. now writing the constitution, the muslim brotherhood dominates it and they have been freezing out the minority, the christians and the secularists. morsi sees that. he's afraid the journals would disband that as well. bill: isn't there a fear...
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bill: morsi has the power now unless you pull another coup. he will do what he needs to do or feels that he needs to do in that country. it will be very interesting to see how that affects the border crossing in rafa, that area that goes from sinai into gaza which i know you have protested against for months now, suggesting that weapons are going into gaza. now on the issue of gaza and hamas, the sees fire appears to be holding. is there any suggestion that it will not, sir? >> well, it's been holding for a few days but we are holding our breath and we are very cautious and very dubious about it because all it will take is one rocket from hamas to break the cease-fire because we will not take another rocket which will land in a kindergarten or a school and try and kill our children or our citizens. so this is a very fragile cease-fire and we do not trust hamas. we do not trust this terror organization which intent on destruction and bloodshed to keep its word. if it does, there will be quiet and the people of gaza may at the end have a life li
bill: morsi has the power now unless you pull another coup. he will do what he needs to do or feels that he needs to do in that country. it will be very interesting to see how that affects the border crossing in rafa, that area that goes from sinai into gaza which i know you have protested against for months now, suggesting that weapons are going into gaza. now on the issue of gaza and hamas, the sees fire appears to be holding. is there any suggestion that it will not, sir? >> well, it's...
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president morsi tried to calm the criticism by promising to reserve his new powers for only the most important decisions. but that didn't appease the protesters. remember, just last week, the united states was publicly praising president morsi when he helped end the conflict between israel and gaza. the white house says president obama has not spoken to his egyptian counterpart since then and today the press secretary jay carney said basically the egyptians need to work this out themselves. there is no evidence that will happen any time soon. right now this enormously influential nation where people forced out of dictator last year again threatens to fall into chaos and instability. that's good for nobody. steve harrigan with the news live in cairo. steve? >> it took 18 nights of street protests, almost two years ago to drive out hosni mubarak from power. now we're on night number five of protests again egypt's first democratically elected president and for the first time, the sound of the protests feel exactly the same as those that drove out his predecessor. even some of the chants
president morsi tried to calm the criticism by promising to reserve his new powers for only the most important decisions. but that didn't appease the protesters. remember, just last week, the united states was publicly praising president morsi when he helped end the conflict between israel and gaza. the white house says president obama has not spoken to his egyptian counterpart since then and today the press secretary jay carney said basically the egyptians need to work this out themselves....
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. >> attempts by egypt president morsi to expand his powers have galvanized the oppositio opposition. in to the largest street protest since those that helped overthrow the former president hosni mubarak two years ago. >> the protesters are a mix. young and old. secular and nationalists. joined for the moment by one emotion. anger. the egypt's first democratically elected president overstepped the bounds and trying to become exactly what they fought so hard to get rid of. a dictator. >> they are great control. appreciate the culture in their own image of muslim brothers. they are not hiding it. it's not that. they are doing it, secretly. >> mohammed morsi's attempt at compromise meeting with the chief judges in cairo, giving verbal assurances that the sweeping powers would only be temporary and limited to unspecified sovereign matters has done nothing to stem unrest. schools and many businesses were closed today due to demonstrations. planned march by muslim brotherhood in support of mohammed morsi was canceled to reduce the chance of conflict between the two sides. >> opposition lead
. >> attempts by egypt president morsi to expand his powers have galvanized the oppositio opposition. in to the largest street protest since those that helped overthrow the former president hosni mubarak two years ago. >> the protesters are a mix. young and old. secular and nationalists. joined for the moment by one emotion. anger. the egypt's first democratically elected president overstepped the bounds and trying to become exactly what they fought so hard to get rid of. a...
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mohamed morsi. after all, muslim brotherhood, he, interestingly, could play a role maybe in a way that is better than president mubarak, who had no love lost for the -- for muslim brotherhood and other let's say more radical elements. so there is an interesting dynamic, i think, coming out in this, that role of president morsi. >> even though hillary clinton met with mahmoud abbas, who is a leader of a different faction of palestinians welcome the palestinian authority, the fattah group in the west bank, obviously did not meet with hamas, the u.s. does not recognize hamas, but most observers say hamas came out of the stronger and mahmoud abbas seems weakened in all of this. we'll see how that plays out in the days and months ahead. jill, appreciate the reporting. we'll check back with you as the story develops. the fragile cease-fire, we continue to show you on the right-hand side of your screen, the skies over gaza city, critical over the next minutes and hours to see if this cease-fire holds. will
mohamed morsi. after all, muslim brotherhood, he, interestingly, could play a role maybe in a way that is better than president mubarak, who had no love lost for the -- for muslim brotherhood and other let's say more radical elements. so there is an interesting dynamic, i think, coming out in this, that role of president morsi. >> even though hillary clinton met with mahmoud abbas, who is a leader of a different faction of palestinians welcome the palestinian authority, the fattah group...
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because president morsi is a member of the muslim brotherhood. there have been concerns over whether he might literally remake the egypt and israeli peace treatment. it appears president morsi has been a key player in bringing about this cease-fire agreement. now, what the united states and in particular, of course, israel will want to see from the egyptians next is some effort to block the smuggling of those rockets that hamas is firing, from egypt, under the tunnels, into gaza and across the southern border. the rockets are made in iran and shipped through sudan and come up through egypt. egypt could have the will and the power to stop the smuggling of the rockets. it remains to be seen whether they will do that. while we are at the u.n. we should also mention while the israelis and hamas have been able to come to a deal on a cease-fire, the united nations security council has not been able to agree on any kind of statement on the violence of the last eight days. the united states proving itself again to be disunited and completely irrelevant e
because president morsi is a member of the muslim brotherhood. there have been concerns over whether he might literally remake the egypt and israeli peace treatment. it appears president morsi has been a key player in bringing about this cease-fire agreement. now, what the united states and in particular, of course, israel will want to see from the egyptians next is some effort to block the smuggling of those rockets that hamas is firing, from egypt, under the tunnels, into gaza and across the...
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president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the iranians will try to get arms in there very quickly is also a given. i think the israelis will act to prevent that but i don't think it will break down the cease-fire. >> and then we have another situation that may be a sideshow in terms of the impact but we have a vote scheduled for thursday at the united nations where the palestinians are seeking some legitimacy, the other palestinians, the fatah wing, mahmoud abbas is coming to new york to have a vote in the general assembly which will be a largely symbolic vote on statehood, especially after hamas has flexed its muscles and
president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the...
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morsi was praised, praised effusively by u.s. officials for his role in mediating the israel/gaza fight. back to you in new york. gregg: it just goes to show you how quickly events can turn around in that region of the world. steve heir began, we'll check back with you a bit later on. thanks very much, in cairo. patti ann: and another hotbed in that region, the hamas terror group is now accusing israel of breaking ceasefire rules two days after a truce was reached along the israel/gaza border. israeli officials say they will investigate reports that a palestinian man was killed. israel has arrested several palestinians suspected of blowing up a bus in tel aviv. we'll bring you the latest on that when we have that. gregg: those are just a few of the many stories we are following this morning. a busy day in "america's newsroom." >>> plus, a boat trip turning deadly off the coast of florida. how 23 people ended up in a fight for their lives. patti ann: and tragedy on the highway. a chain reaction crash causing a 140-car pile-up. we'
morsi was praised, praised effusively by u.s. officials for his role in mediating the israel/gaza fight. back to you in new york. gregg: it just goes to show you how quickly events can turn around in that region of the world. steve heir began, we'll check back with you a bit later on. thanks very much, in cairo. patti ann: and another hotbed in that region, the hamas terror group is now accusing israel of breaking ceasefire rules two days after a truce was reached along the israel/gaza border....
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martha: stopping short of saying that they criticize president morsi. bob beckel joins me now former democratic campaign pherg an manager and andrea ta tamparo. >> here is the problem, after you do that, mccain says automatic line things we do after that -- bill: sorry about the interruption. this is senator mccain fresh out of his meeting with ambassador susan rice. >> i am significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and didn't get concerning evidence leading up to the attack on our consulate and the tragic deaths of four brave americans and whether ambassador rice was prepared or in formed sufficiently in order to give the american people a correct depiction of the events that took place. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect, when she said that it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans, as well as other americans who are fully aware that people d
martha: stopping short of saying that they criticize president morsi. bob beckel joins me now former democratic campaign pherg an manager and andrea ta tamparo. >> here is the problem, after you do that, mccain says automatic line things we do after that -- bill: sorry about the interruption. this is senator mccain fresh out of his meeting with ambassador susan rice. >> i am significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and didn't get concerning evidence leading up to...
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she also met with mohammed morsi. from a u.s. perspective, president obama is weeks away from being sworn in for his second term. they are hoping to bring peace of some kind and they hold that they have some kind of a short-term solution. they are looking for something and that is eluding them right now. jon: the hopes have been complicated by the relationship with egypt, which is not what you you you see. how does the u.s. have agreed that? >> you have president morsi secretary clinton is talking right now. there are questions about whether he can be trusted, what kind of a player he believed there a lot different from president hosting this file was seen as a pillar in the region in terms of bringing all sides together. don't forget that it was two months for the president obama said that egypt was no longer an ally. your shape views on outside the one i'm sure it can. the two leon panetta, the defense secretary, commenting on the attack while giving a speech on outside. >> we are also concerned about libya. violent extremists
she also met with mohammed morsi. from a u.s. perspective, president obama is weeks away from being sworn in for his second term. they are hoping to bring peace of some kind and they hold that they have some kind of a short-term solution. they are looking for something and that is eluding them right now. jon: the hopes have been complicated by the relationship with egypt, which is not what you you you see. how does the u.s. have agreed that? >> you have president morsi secretary clinton...
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mohammed morsi, a long time member of the muslim brotherhood here in egypt and openly sympathetic to hamas which, of course, the u.s. considers a terrorist organization. and, yet, right now he is receiving high praise from u.s. officials for his mediation of this conflict. here is what secretary of state hillary clinton had to say. this is a critical moment for the region. government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a corner stone of regional stability and peace. notoriously fragile after eight dayings of fighting. the next 24 hours will be closely watched to see whether this truce has a chance. trace? >> steve harrigan live in what is now early morning live in cairo, egypt. the white house says president obama called israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and egyptian president mohammed morsi today. the president thanked them for working out a cease-fire deal but also said it's important to keep working on a more durable solution. a live update from the white house coming up on "the fox report." well, tonight, witnesses say the only bu
mohammed morsi, a long time member of the muslim brotherhood here in egypt and openly sympathetic to hamas which, of course, the u.s. considers a terrorist organization. and, yet, right now he is receiving high praise from u.s. officials for his mediation of this conflict. here is what secretary of state hillary clinton had to say. this is a critical moment for the region. government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a corner stone of regional...
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morsy appealed for calm. in a speech to hundreds of supporters who gathered outside the presidential palace in cairo, he defended his decrees and rejected accusations of a power grab. >> translator: i didn't take a decision against anyone or pick a side against another. i have to put myself in a clear path, a path that achieves a clear goal. >> reporter: several hours after mr. morsy's speech, his critics were still out here in tahrir square protesting throughout the night, setting the stage for what seems to be an intensifying face-off between the president and his opponents. >> and let's bringing in reza sayah from cairo. you filed that report hours ago. as we look at live pictures of tahrir square, tell us about the scene there now. are there still protesters? >> reporter: they're still there but things have quieted down considerably. there are some demonstrators still out there, those who pitched toents stay overnight. but nowhere near the numbers we saw yesterday. yesterday was probably one of the most i
morsy appealed for calm. in a speech to hundreds of supporters who gathered outside the presidential palace in cairo, he defended his decrees and rejected accusations of a power grab. >> translator: i didn't take a decision against anyone or pick a side against another. i have to put myself in a clear path, a path that achieves a clear goal. >> reporter: several hours after mr. morsy's speech, his critics were still out here in tahrir square protesting throughout the night, setting...
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some are saying that mohammed morsi is the real winner here. you have all sides facing the same person. americans giving him high marks for his mediation, even some israeli officials praising the president. as far as the mediation goes, there were some concerns about which direction he would say, a long-term member of the muslim brotherhood and a public sympathizer of hamas. and in the end, he worked closely with u.s. officials about that days of violence. he had all those conversations with president obama. >> we are wondering. he is trying to change the constitution and give themselves more power. what can you tell us about that? >> some dramatic developments which have just occurred in the last hours, and we have had four days of protests. they could be extremely large tomorrow. what the egyptian president has done is basically said that no one can overrule any of his decrees since he became president in june. not even the courts. he also said any of those guilty for killing protesters in masters revolution, they would be retried. president
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morsi, i think, wants to cash in on some of the same elements of the bar gain. jon: let's turn our attention to syria. the bloodshed goes on there, some would say that it has been, i mean, that world attention has been focused on what's been going on between hamas and the israelis, maybe the egyptian protests while the syrians continue to kill their own people with the support of iran. what do you think? >> yeah, i mean, look, you know, it's coming up now on two years since relatively peaceful demonstrations turned into, essentially, a civil war. and the reality is there has been so much blood that has been spilled, that it's going to negate the possibility of a negotiated settlement between the assads and the opposition and, tragically, not enough blood has been spilled in order to prompt a divided international community, and the administration is very warily -- i would argue rightly, frankly -- about getting dragged into an open-ended military intervention ford to topple the assads. maybe there's a few more things we can do. arming some of the rebels that we
morsi, i think, wants to cash in on some of the same elements of the bar gain. jon: let's turn our attention to syria. the bloodshed goes on there, some would say that it has been, i mean, that world attention has been focused on what's been going on between hamas and the israelis, maybe the egyptian protests while the syrians continue to kill their own people with the support of iran. what do you think? >> yeah, i mean, look, you know, it's coming up now on two years since relatively...
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now this is morsi's real debut on the world stage. he rose from his position as head of the engineering department at a cairo university to become president of egypt last year. it's really an intriguing story. morsi replaced, as you know, president hosni mubarak who had been in power for three decades and was one of israel's few allies in the region and morsi ran as the muslim brotherhood's candidate and he promised to implement islamic law. but analysts say that he's not really a true religious fundamentalist. that he had to adopt those positions to fend off competition from islamist extremists. and his background does seem to suggest that he may be more of a moderate. at least he spent eight years in the united states. he's earned a ph.d. in engineering from usc before he joined the faculty at cal state university north ridge. in fact, two of his five children were actually born during that time and those kids are u.s. citizens. but his links to this country certainly are going to be put to the test tomorrow when secretary of state
now this is morsi's real debut on the world stage. he rose from his position as head of the engineering department at a cairo university to become president of egypt last year. it's really an intriguing story. morsi replaced, as you know, president hosni mubarak who had been in power for three decades and was one of israel's few allies in the region and morsi ran as the muslim brotherhood's candidate and he promised to implement islamic law. but analysts say that he's not really a true...
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>>> i would like to know in all of these they have with president morsi what was it that gave morsi the view that he would have a freehand to try this particular gamut that he announced on our thanksgiving of all days to essentially side line the political opposition. it generated a lot of opposition. he may not be able to succeed on all of it do you think he sees it as a reward for brokering the truce. >> he feels the moment was right to show his true colors. the idea that muslim brotherhood is some what mild and responsible they have radical i say almostists they have a particular view of the role of religion in domestic life in egypt. i am afraid a damaging view toward american security interests as the middle east as a whole. >> there's the warning islamists on the rise at the expense of our country. ambassador, always good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> there's another dangerous developing situation in the middle east. israeli spy satellites reportedly spotting an iranian shiping with loaded with rockettes. some analysts believe the deadly cargo is bound for gaza. that co
>>> i would like to know in all of these they have with president morsi what was it that gave morsi the view that he would have a freehand to try this particular gamut that he announced on our thanksgiving of all days to essentially side line the political opposition. it generated a lot of opposition. he may not be able to succeed on all of it do you think he sees it as a reward for brokering the truce. >> he feels the moment was right to show his true colors. the idea that...
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look at morsi's declaration. one thing he didn't do is he didn't say, i am resurrecting the parliament that this judiciary dissolved. in fact, his spokesman said they're not going to do that. and that to me further confirms the notion that this is about him consolidating the power of the presidency and not about bringing back -- >> i want to hear your thoughts how the use navigates this treacherous terrain. that after this break. >>> from new york, i'm chris hayes. back with my panel. we're talking about the remarkable events in egypt, which continues to be one of the most interesting places on the globe politically, because it is the intense most revolutionary environment. it was one of the most eventful weeks in egypt since the revolution. and in the region because of it. and mohammed morsi was part of sort of along with hillary clinton, was doing this kind of shuttle diplomacy around negotiating a cease-fire with the israelis and hamas in gaza. the cease-fire makes egypt the enforcer of the agreement, quite re
look at morsi's declaration. one thing he didn't do is he didn't say, i am resurrecting the parliament that this judiciary dissolved. in fact, his spokesman said they're not going to do that. and that to me further confirms the notion that this is about him consolidating the power of the presidency and not about bringing back -- >> i want to hear your thoughts how the use navigates this treacherous terrain. that after this break. >>> from new york, i'm chris hayes. back with my...
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>morsi's defense would be this is only temporary. as soon as the constitution is written, then my powers go back to whatever that document says. i'm not going to do this endlessly. mubarak kept on declaring a state of emergency and extending it and extending it and so on. i'm not trying to do that. just give me till february so they can basically oversee this process, and then we go back to normal. >> suarez: you know, it's only about 48 hours since the this guy was the toast of world capitals for role he took in bringing about a cease-fire between israel and gaza. cothese things move on separate traction or did he feel his hand strengthened by that new attention? >> we have to speculate about motives here, but i cannot believe it's a total coincidence. morse all along has been trying to assert his authority and feeling that he's it constrained in all kinds of different ways, and he's really tried to find theight time to make these moves. right now, i think he felt that the constitutional assembly was moving towards completion. there
>morsi's defense would be this is only temporary. as soon as the constitution is written, then my powers go back to whatever that document says. i'm not going to do this endlessly. mubarak kept on declaring a state of emergency and extending it and extending it and so on. i'm not trying to do that. just give me till february so they can basically oversee this process, and then we go back to normal. >> suarez: you know, it's only about 48 hours since the this guy was the toast of world...
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mohamed morsi under fire for granting himself extraordinary powers. will that affect cease-fire talks between israel and hamas? they're happening in egypt today. >> and $59 billion! retail records broken as americans crowded stores for some competitive shopping over the weekend. and now cyber monday is here. will shoppers be in even more of a spending mood? >> you want to talk about money? a new powerball jackpot. a new record in the cash payout. it's unreal. >> a packed two hours ahead for you this morning. new jersey congressman bill pascrell will be joining us, grover norquist, jamie rubin, dr. hanan ashrawi, will be our guest, peter billingsley from a christmas story, and grinle college hoops star jack taylor. remember him? big game he had the other day. and the one and only tony bennett, monday, november 26th. welcome, everybody, "starting point" this morning. is that a hint of compromise in the air on capitol hill? 35 days left till we reach the fiscal cliff. and a couple of key republicans are now suggesting that they're willing to forego their
mohamed morsi under fire for granting himself extraordinary powers. will that affect cease-fire talks between israel and hamas? they're happening in egypt today. >> and $59 billion! retail records broken as americans crowded stores for some competitive shopping over the weekend. and now cyber monday is here. will shoppers be in even more of a spending mood? >> you want to talk about money? a new powerball jackpot. a new record in the cash payout. it's unreal. >> a packed two...
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government, of course. >> i want to thank president morsi for his leadership in ending the violent, this is a critical moment for the region. egypt a new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stabilitiy it peace. lou: the ceasefire hours after a bomb tow through a bus in israel's defense ministry in l aviv, it injured at least 2 dozen people, hamas leaders praised the attack but did not take out right responsibility. a damascus based group with ties to the west bank took credit. the israeli government confirmed this is only the first stage of a ceasefire agreement work many questions remain stock answered. a second set of negotiations reportedly to begin within the next 24 hours, israel's blockade of the gaza border, and an end to t flow of arms in to gaza to be negotiated. but perhaps, a bigger question, did secretary of state, hillary clinton, simply rubber-stamp an agreement that has already been negotiated. we take all of this up here tonight with a number of experts and insiders, fox news middle eastern aff
government, of course. >> i want to thank president morsi for his leadership in ending the violent, this is a critical moment for the region. egypt a new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stabilitiy it peace. lou: the ceasefire hours after a bomb tow through a bus in israel's defense ministry in l aviv, it injured at least 2 dozen people, hamas leaders praised the attack but did not take out right...
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morsi granted himself broad new powers. good evening. i'm jeffrey brown. >> suarez: and i'm ray suarez. on the newshour tonight, we have the latest on the widespread demonstrations, and assess what's behind the egyptian leader's moves. >> brown: then, the death toll in syria's 20-month war has climbed past 40,000, according to a human rights group. we get an update from margaret warner, reporting from the turkish border. >> suarez: we continue our conversations with newly-elected senators. judy woodruff talks with virginia democrat tim kaine. >> i intend to hit the ground on january 3 very much running. > running. we can make progress quickly if we listen to each other and find those points of common ground they think do exist. >> brown: mark shields and david brooks analyze the weeks news. >> suarez: spencer michels has the story of a growing crackdown on dissidents and journalists in iran. >> brown: and we close with poet jennifer fitzgerald on hurricane sandy's destructive path through her home town of staten island. that's all ahead
morsi granted himself broad new powers. good evening. i'm jeffrey brown. >> suarez: and i'm ray suarez. on the newshour tonight, we have the latest on the widespread demonstrations, and assess what's behind the egyptian leader's moves. >> brown: then, the death toll in syria's 20-month war has climbed past 40,000, according to a human rights group. we get an update from margaret warner, reporting from the turkish border. >> suarez: we continue our conversations with...
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what morsi has done is troubling. we need a real democracy that represents the people in egypt and should make strong statements in opposition to moves like this. >> shannon: we did get a statement from the state department friday in response to what morsi proposed suggesting the revolution was about making sure no power was concentrated with any one person and urging egyptians to get back to what the premise of the election was. at this point is it time for the president to speak out? is it time for the white house to issue it's own statement? what about the funding the u.s. provides by the billions? >> all that should be on the table. we don't have an enormous amount of influence. the credibility of the united states and egypt is not great for a variety of reasons so we have to be cautious about saying we're going to go in and bully them into doing the right thing. that's why diplomacy is so important. we have to try to influence behind the scenes, but all those things you discussed should be on the table and make i
what morsi has done is troubling. we need a real democracy that represents the people in egypt and should make strong statements in opposition to moves like this. >> shannon: we did get a statement from the state department friday in response to what morsi proposed suggesting the revolution was about making sure no power was concentrated with any one person and urging egyptians to get back to what the premise of the election was. at this point is it time for the president to speak out? is...
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and that's going to take time for president morsi, egyptian president morsi, to ensure hamas live up to its agreement especially with the cease-fire. >> david, who would you send? >> i don't think it matters. i don't think this is about personalities. this is a structural conflict. and peace will come when -- the kind of peace we're talking about will come when the palestinians make a strategic decision for peace. but what we can look forward to in the interim because that day is probably a long way off are a series of measures for better security. reinforcement of the wall, better separation of the israelis from the palestinians and tight policing of the flow of weaponry into gaza and better economic conditions for the palestinian population. many of whom are radicalized by unnecessary economic hardship. >> all right. i want to thank both of you for coming in today. once again happy thanksgiving to you. now we're going to go back to wolf blitzer who's in jerusalem. so how is that cease-fire holding up, wolf? >> so far it's holding up, joe. let's hope for the best. if it does hold up
and that's going to take time for president morsi, egyptian president morsi, to ensure hamas live up to its agreement especially with the cease-fire. >> david, who would you send? >> i don't think it matters. i don't think this is about personalities. this is a structural conflict. and peace will come when -- the kind of peace we're talking about will come when the palestinians make a strategic decision for peace. but what we can look forward to in the interim because that day is...
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night in sheets of joy these people absolutely determined to go out to protest is that mohamed morsi was told to be ready to make that declaration that he didn't want to themselves we think was last tuesday we would have to leave that mohamed morsi got to make it democracy in this country but after within five five months of this or since he had more sense starting to run runs this country has said to use despair i'm collecting all of the poems this country to be on his side a lot of this you could hear but i don't know morsi is the president was nowhere close to what occurred. just the first week i think of this problem of having making that possible support of the big wins completely which. since you have to ration. of congress. members of the constitution and assembly said they could vote on a new constitution in the coming few days after that morsi has promised to shed his newly acquired powers but blogger and journalists while skandha has told me that he thinks he believes that real democracy is a long way off but the fact of the matter is that everything is going in the opposit
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power grab by the president showed no sign of ending one hundred thousand people calling on mohammed morsi to leave after he gave himself authority beyond reach of the courts true is in the egyptian capital. had to kyra's major chords with the country's major chords the constitutional court and the appeals court say they are going to strike of course the judges themselves are also still on a partial strike the journalists in the case and their own so who first strike to seeing really quite a lot of movement that a major sectors within egypt society which the president is really going to have to do with as things escalate on the street as well fish caches do continue between protesters and the police which started early last week right down below us right now police are firing excessive amounts of tear gas and bad shots at dozens of protesters who are still in the streets reporting from the seeing my colleague tom barton has more here in the streets of central cairo the sights the sounds and the smells of protest and of civil disorder very loud and very clear tucker a square is just over th
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grabbed by the president over one hundred thousand people gathered in cairo are calling on mohamed morsi to leave often he gave himself up for it to beyond the reach of the courts archies time botton is in the egyptian capital there in the streets or central cairo the sights the sounds and the smells of protest and civil just so it's a very loud and very clear tough or a square is just over there and a large crowd of protesters are erling stones at the pole. these who are giving it just as much back picking up stones themselves and firing back along with them there's vans firing gas canisters into the crowds the stench of to gas is thick in the air the police a protest as everyone alike is has their eyes and noses who actually formalised take ass there's more top coat tails trying through the air as well all the pavements have been ripped up as have some of the branches of the trees it's a real street being done on our last night in such a day these people absolutely determined the crowds of protesters the mahomedan was she was totally wrong to make that declaration that he did once agai
grabbed by the president over one hundred thousand people gathered in cairo are calling on mohamed morsi to leave often he gave himself up for it to beyond the reach of the courts archies time botton is in the egyptian capital there in the streets or central cairo the sights the sounds and the smells of protest and civil just so it's a very loud and very clear tough or a square is just over there and a large crowd of protesters are erling stones at the pole. these who are giving it just as much...
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egypt's top judges join the fight against president mohamed morsi with tens of thousands of egyptians now calling for the islamist leader to step down. hopes are high for palestine is bad for an enhanced u.n. status international support for autonomy gains momentum despite ston shop position from israel and the u.s. . and germany's political opposition lashes out of the country's leaders for lying about the true costs of the greek rescue as the german parliament is set to vote on the latest package for the struggling new member. fortunately live from moscow nine am in the russian capital i'm marina joshie and a further escalation of the crisis in egypt the country stop judiciary have gone on strike to protest president morsi decree that greatly enlarged his power morse's move set off a nationwide wave of violence rallies with tens of thousands of egyptians calling for the islamist leader to step down journalist bill truth has the latest from cairo and we've had two kyrie's major courts with the country's major courts the constitutional court and the appeals court say they are going to
egypt's top judges join the fight against president mohamed morsi with tens of thousands of egyptians now calling for the islamist leader to step down. hopes are high for palestine is bad for an enhanced u.n. status international support for autonomy gains momentum despite ston shop position from israel and the u.s. . and germany's political opposition lashes out of the country's leaders for lying about the true costs of the greek rescue as the german parliament is set to vote on the latest...
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right now the circumstances also are favoring morsi. and the other reason is because he holds the sort of future of egypt in his hands right now and of the revolution with what he does in the coming couple of months. >> uh-huh. and another new development to tell you about today. egyptian lawmakers dominated by islamists are now rushing to draft a new constitution. this move is seen by some of morsi's critics as an effort by the muslim brotherhood to hijack the constitution and egypt's butting push for democracy. >>> there's a slaughter happening along the coast of the united states in the gulf of mexico to be specific. someone is brutally killing dolphins, those gentle mammals that don't fear man. the area is a major dolphin birthing area putting newborns at risk. cnn's ed lavandera takes us to the mississippi gulf coast. and a warning for you, you may find some of the pictures very disturbing. >> reporter: to reach the crime scenes, you need to catch a ride and take a guide. this island we see off to our left this is deer island where
right now the circumstances also are favoring morsi. and the other reason is because he holds the sort of future of egypt in his hands right now and of the revolution with what he does in the coming couple of months. >> uh-huh. and another new development to tell you about today. egyptian lawmakers dominated by islamists are now rushing to draft a new constitution. this move is seen by some of morsi's critics as an effort by the muslim brotherhood to hijack the constitution and egypt's...
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>> well, what morsi needs is a safe border, and i think part of the challenge from morsi is somewhere in this calculation has been can egypt be the garn tore that once a cease-fire is declared, that hamas will hold its fire? and obviously hamas is a major protagonist in this, but not the only one. i think from egypt's standpoint they also recognize there's a dynamic between hamas and bedouin groups along the israeli/egyptian boarders that have been causing troubles over the past year. i think if the security situation is stabilized, that can only be good news, you know, for mohammed morsi and egypt. >> from your experience if diplomatic engagements if secretary clinton does make progress here, does he leave town and monitor from afar or is there any situation where she might try to do more than a stop gap measure by staying in the region or nearby? >> no. i think this is a major achievement and if the cease-fire is in place, then you have the first of what i think are three, you know, critical situations. the first is, stop, you know, holding the immediate -- getting the cease-fire in
>> well, what morsi needs is a safe border, and i think part of the challenge from morsi is somewhere in this calculation has been can egypt be the garn tore that once a cease-fire is declared, that hamas will hold its fire? and obviously hamas is a major protagonist in this, but not the only one. i think from egypt's standpoint they also recognize there's a dynamic between hamas and bedouin groups along the israeli/egyptian boarders that have been causing troubles over the past year. i...
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morsi. we appreciate president morsi's action but in the past it's always been the united states that's brokered these deals and there's a clear perception amongst hamas that they won on this one. unfortunately the plo, abbas and others, have been diminished as a result of the negotiations and settlement reached. i predict hamas will continue to test the israelis and how far they can government finally let's trace it back to iran. where did the missiles come from? iran. where are the iranian revolutionary guard on the ground, irsyria. the centrifuge continues to spin in tehran. we've got to face up to what is one of the prime reasons there's the kind of unrest we're seeing. >> let me button you up the morsi thing. what should our demand be? >> stop. stop, renounce the statement and move he just made. allow the judiciary to function. if the judiciary is flawed in some way, then that's a illness that can be cured over time but to assume this kind of power is unacceptable to the united states o
morsi. we appreciate president morsi's action but in the past it's always been the united states that's brokered these deals and there's a clear perception amongst hamas that they won on this one. unfortunately the plo, abbas and others, have been diminished as a result of the negotiations and settlement reached. i predict hamas will continue to test the israelis and how far they can government finally let's trace it back to iran. where did the missiles come from? iran. where are the iranian...
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is it all over morsi granting himself these further powers? >> reporter: yes, alex, it is about that. he came out, by the way, a good hour ago to talk, to speechify about the presidential powers. that's about four or five miles away from what you're describing, which is at tahrir square, the famous tahrir square. morsi spoke to his supporters saying that he had to do this to break really what is a log jam in writing up a new constitution. he was saying much of the judiciary are very honorable people but there are five or six or seven bad eggs, if you will. these are remnants of the mubarak regime and they're constantly interfering with the process. meanwhile, the country is continuing to be mired in poverty, a lack of social justice and what have you. so he says to protect the revolution, to protect the principles of the revolution and to protect this country's forward movement towards democracy he needed to do this to keep the constitution and the writing of the constitution moving forward. >> now, jim, if he does this, it's been reported he
is it all over morsi granting himself these further powers? >> reporter: yes, alex, it is about that. he came out, by the way, a good hour ago to talk, to speechify about the presidential powers. that's about four or five miles away from what you're describing, which is at tahrir square, the famous tahrir square. morsi spoke to his supporters saying that he had to do this to break really what is a log jam in writing up a new constitution. he was saying much of the judiciary are very...
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angry protesters want president morsi to rescind decreases granting himself near absolute powers. morsi has tried to soften his position saying he is only increasing his powers temporarily. >>> palestinian officials say yasser arafat's remains have been reburied hours after being exhumed. it began early today under the cover of huge blue sheets. officials say samples were given to experts from switzerland, france and rush the former palestinian leader died of a stroke in 2004. the underlying cause remains a mystery. >>> visit to capitol hill by ambassador rice changing the mines of republicans who oppose her -- the minds of republicans who oppose her expected nomination to secretary of state. some say they are more troubled now than they were over her initial explanations about the deadly raid in benghazi. rice met behind closed door with mccain, graham and ayotte, three of her harshest critics. >> lisa argen what are you finding? >> visibility improving, a little sun, mid 50s to around 60, as they say, the calm before the storm. we'll talk about all three of them head our way thr
angry protesters want president morsi to rescind decreases granting himself near absolute powers. morsi has tried to soften his position saying he is only increasing his powers temporarily. >>> palestinian officials say yasser arafat's remains have been reburied hours after being exhumed. it began early today under the cover of huge blue sheets. officials say samples were given to experts from switzerland, france and rush the former palestinian leader died of a stroke in 2004. the...
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and was holding power until morsi became the president of the country. so there is still a llt of moving parts here. it is still very dynamic. i don't think this is over by a longshot. melissa: why is this, just to bring it back to our viewers, why is this so important to americans here? one reason is the suez canal which runs, you know, right there next to egypt. this is an important waterway for all kind of commerce in the area. there's oil in the region. and then, i mean there is egypt's now role and prominence in the region. >> yeah. egypt is the most populous country in the arab world. it has been a leader for quite some time, a friend of the united states. you mentioned the suez canal. camp david accords, peace with israel. counterterrorism. there have been a lot of bad actors showing up in the sinai. thh gaza, palestinian issue. middle east peace. relations with iran. egypt was a strong bulwark, melissa, against iran's rise in the region. now they're talking about setting up diplomatic relations. in fact the new egyptian government let iranian war
and was holding power until morsi became the president of the country. so there is still a llt of moving parts here. it is still very dynamic. i don't think this is over by a longshot. melissa: why is this, just to bring it back to our viewers, why is this so important to americans here? one reason is the suez canal which runs, you know, right there next to egypt. this is an important waterway for all kind of commerce in the area. there's oil in the region. and then, i mean there is egypt's now...